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shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.01 11:23:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:
Good luck explaining that to someone who doesn't understand what opportunity cost is.
I am fairly certain, that Brewlar Kuvakei doesnt even read any of these posts:p This is his Crusade against his worst Enemy, the T2 BPO. All he does is posting a more or less meaningless post after a certain ammount of time, not as a reaction of previous posts. |
shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2012.05.01 13:30:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Yet again people who talk about ROI on T2BPO are idiots the ROI is instant T2BPO cost the owners nothing but RP and are worth billions of ISK. The ROI on T2BPO is instant and astronomical in account for the retaliative cost of RP.
WRONG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_of_return
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shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.04 23:12:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:
Honestly I read his half way, and read yours to the end but your argument is still invalid I.E. has nothing to do with "The importance"
Your argument is truly invalid as you are incapable of seeing all sides of the coin, perhaps pretend to look for public sake.
its funny that especially you two choose to validate posts...
Kara...litteraly all of you arguments failed due missing knowledge about the game, like the T2 Rig BPO`s thing or these 87% etc...its just wrong. But excuse my ignorance if I missed something and put up a invalid argument, so please explain to me where I`m so wrong.
Brewlar, it is not an insult when its obvious that the problem your trying to point out is based in your personel missunderstanding of the whole T2 BPO thing, plus you seem to be very selective in understanding what ppl say. it might be the language-bareer or what so ever but you seem to purely ignore all point regardless how meaningfull it is.
But here is the thing... Considering ITT seem way more ppl to agree with Akita etc. that T2 BPO are not a problem (we even found out they are not T2 BPO owners) and even if not, over the last 6 years absolutly no CSM, NO GM, No Dev has even cared a littled about this. It is more than obvious that CCP just doesnt agree with you here and probably never will, so what do you expect from this lonely crusade, besides that people will troll you? |
shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.07 14:11:00 -
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Morgan Dinn wrote:
that means datacore prices will drop quite abit which means invention cost will drop which means invention will be cheaper.
so far Datacores only did cost RP. now they will also cost isk (or LP). They will have a better availability than now obviously. They might drop in price, but I wouldn`t count on it. |
shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2012.05.08 09:19:00 -
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Morgan Dinn wrote:
Prices would change to invention prices which would mean that inventing any item would be profitable cause it would be the only way to do the items.
There are plenty of items and ships RIGHT NOW on the market that would make negative profit if you would produce them even with a max researched T2 BPO, impossible according your theory, plz explain.
Quote:And atm you are locked out on all tech 2 items that have tech 2 bpos in the game. No point inventing if you are trying to make profit. The bpo owners can undercut you anytime and you will be forced to sell on loss if you want to sell the items
basicly your calling everyone a liar who is making isk with invention right now?
http://eveeye.com/profit.asp?blueprint=Cap+Recharger+II+Blueprint&ML=-4&PL=-4&RAP=1&F60=1&P=1
1 item of 10.000 that make profit with invention. Seriously why do you feel posting if you dont even do the numbers...
only very certain, low demanded items sell below invention costs and most of them even sell below T2 production costs (inflatened)
You also seem to not know that T2 BPO`s have a very limited output wich is by far lower than the demand is (yea bring the 3-4 exceptions again....)
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shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2012.05.08 13:45:00 -
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how suprising, brewlar wakes up right after somebody made post that is bad enough that it could come from brewlar himself
your shuttle theory is funny but has nothing to do with the whole thing. it completly ignores Volume (wich makes it really bad already) and that somebody who is aiming for max profits would never sell for less than he could get.
Ignore that it's a game, you just showed us that you have some serious logical barriers about business that you have to master before you can even understand why your shuttle theory is that bad.
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shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2012.05.08 14:56:00 -
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Morgan Dinn wrote:
Tough adding volume would just show tht the person owning the bpo could make more and get more profit while the inventor would just get amount of profit. Or do you wanna think this on the CCP scale?
Oh god...
You NEED the volume before anything else if you wana talk about supply/demand. This is so stupid, I feel ashamed for you that you rly want to be a smartass and dont even get that... in your shuttle world a T2 BPO (if its going to be linear) would have a unlimited capacity. But with just 20 BPO`s in the game each, you cant build as many items as you want, thats why volume is important in this case. for example 100 shuttles getting sold per day, all BPO`s in the game make 5 Shuttles per day, so even if the Shuttle BPO owners hate isk and sell for less than they could and strictly undercut the other shuttle-sellers, how can you control the enitre market with these 4 shuttles?
Morgan Dinn wrote:
Inventors vs BPO owners. I have a faint memory about a chart that showed that 35% (or something like that) is made from bpos. Tough I'm not totaly sure about it. And I'm too tired to go find it.
So 65% are made via invention, wich is according to your shuttle theory impossible. You got that?
Morgan Dinn wrote:
Thats how it realy works. ]
No it really is not, otherwise nobody would invent anything with profit, wich is obviously not the case. |
shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2012.05.08 16:41:00 -
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Morgan Dinn wrote:Ok so by your calculations inventers do the most of the work and according to ccp also so lets remove t2 bpos then?
Problem solved and no one needs to talk about this anymore ever again.
Tough i would loose quite abit in that :(
sup brewlar
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shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2012.05.08 18:09:00 -
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Morgan Dinn wrote:
I would be fine with either having more T2 originals in the game or making copies researchable or removing T2 BPOs
right-click/trash?
See, I hoenstly dont think anyone ITT is scared that T2 BPO`s are ever getting touched. like you say, if they would ever change their mind and acutally touch em, I dont think they would need some crybabys to make threads about how jelly they are, either.
EDIT:
also against your shuttle disaster, any counter-post can be seen as a win ;) |
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